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Poster: jerlouvis Date: Apr 9, 2013 2:10pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Pigpen fans unite

I am always open to giving things another listen and seeing what I very well could have missed and will take a run at most everything people were nice enough to suggest.The studio stuff doesn't count for me,it should be good if your'e in a studio.

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Apr 9, 2013 2:18pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Pigpen fans unite

>it should be good if you're in a studio

If only that was the case!

Pigs more a feeling/vibe/groove (that I like a bunch) then a virtuoso musician to me.

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Poster: AltheaRose Date: Apr 9, 2013 8:02pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Pigpen fans unite

LOL!

I think that's a good way of putting it. And really, that's always the case with musical taste; very few people are really attracted to a musician or a band because of sheer virtuosity. Ultimately art is about communicating a certain tone or feeling or mood or "vision" (conscious or not), and the quality of a person's voice, the choices they make, their "vibe/groove," etc is what makes that happen. Virtuoso ability can enable someone to do that -- Jerry being the obvious case in point -- but it's not the whole shebang. Undoubtedly there are guitarists more virtuoso than Jerry (certainly some people argue that), but they don't have that feeling/vibe/groove.

But if you don't like a vibe, then it doesn't matter much if the person is a virtuoso or not. Most of what Picasso did just leaves me cold. It doesn't speak to me. He's certainly a virtuoso, but not my thing.

I like Pig as a spice in the GD mix. Or maybe the oil in the dish -- not particularly sophisticated or gourmet, and too much is too much, and you could make lots of arguments about why oil isn't All That. Still, it's great stuff in the right proportions, though I wouldn't be inclined to swig straight Pig.


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Poster: ColdRain108 Date: Apr 10, 2013 9:18am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Pigpen fans unite

I know several "virtuoso" musicians and they all had a similar quality about them - They HATED the Grateful Dead. Not just the music, but the whole concept, as it flew in the face on conventional wisdom in regard to music - THANK GOD!

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Poster: BVD Date: Apr 10, 2013 11:00am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Pigpen fans unite

I didn't get the chance to see Pig until late in the game. Saw him at the Felt Forum shows and The Academy of Music(saw three or four shows from that run) What really stands out for me is when he sang Big Boss Man and Next Time You See Me. I missed the Lovelights and the raps. The line in Next Time You See Me "Ya know you lied, cheated and then the audience in unison Wa Oh! for so long." was great.He really did have the audience in the palm of his hand. I remember turning to my friend and asked who this guy was, she said Pigpen. I said "He's fuckin' too much"! She agreed and told me you should have seen him a couple of years ago.Yes I should have.

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Poster: light into ashes Date: Apr 10, 2013 11:18am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Pigpen fans unite

That's a neat memory, and you didn't even see his showstoppers!

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Poster: William Tell Date: Apr 10, 2013 2:26pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Pigpen fans unite

Great stuff, BVD...

And, BINGO!!! Double dumb ass that I am: Big Boss Man!

That is another of his 'greats'.

Crap. I can't believe I didn't mention that one earlier...

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Poster: ghostofpig Date: Apr 11, 2013 5:16am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Pigpen fans unite

Ay: there's "The Rub."

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Poster: ghostofpig Date: Apr 10, 2013 7:12pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Pigpen fans unite

I never heard a Smokestack Lightning I didn't love--or It's a Man's World. But the band always played to his strengths in these tunes. Sure, the version from Harpur has a major flub in it, but listen to how Pig made Jerry wail on an all too brief solo. But any Smokestack. Isn't there a "new" one on the new "Dave's Picks"?